[Exports_project_office] Things that NEEDS to be resolved before Thursday

[Ivona Cetinic]

Hi Craig,

I don't believe rules have changed... I could not tell her don't get the
vaccine. This was a situation where I had to make a decision and I made it.
I believe it is for the benefit of the team.

She will be flying one day later. Not a week. One day. And we can extend
her quarantine too.

Ivona


On Tue, Mar 16, 2021, 7:59 PM Craig M. Lee <craiglee at uw.edu> wrote:

> Hi Ivona,
>
> I’ll write to Guy with our questions.
>
> Regarding shortening of quarantine… this is a very bad precedent. I
> understand the rationale behind letting Meg fly a day later, but it is a
> slippery slope. The logical extension of shortening Meg’s quarantine is
> that it’s OK to shorten the quarantine of everyone who is vaccinated. How
> much shorter? Can we shorten it for the non-vaccinated as well? CDC says
> isolation periods could be shortened considerably, but that’s for a
> land-based scenario - not one where we're placing people on ships, in close
> quarters, and sending them to sea (though not terribly remote, this time).
> I do not believe that we should shorten the quarantine. You’ve heard the
> arguments, and I will not repeat them here. We’d previously agreed to apply
> the same rules across the entire science party. This has now changed.
>
> Regarding Sari’s situation, what is the current NOC protocol? My
> recollection is that it’s a shorter quarantine, all taking place on the
> ship. Augmented by self-imposed home isolation in the days prior to moving
> aboard. Allowing her to follow whatever the rest of the (local) crew follow
> would be consistent, and probably no riskier than what we’re already
> exposed to with the crews. As with the rest of the NOC folks, we are
> relying on her compliance with the pre-boarding protocol, though.
>
> Craig
>
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>
> > On Mar 16, 2021, at 4:19 PM, Ivona Cetinic via Exports_project_office <
> exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >
> > Hi to all,
> >
> > Before we give a final ok to people we need some things resolved. I
> would prefer that the questions that go to Guy are coming from one of the
> chief scientists:
> >
> > 1) seafarers agreement (Guy) - when will that document be provided to
> our scientists? Prior to trip makes their entrance to UK easier. It makes
> also our tests independent and not reportable to UK government.
> >
> > 2) Demob (Guy) Currently demob is scheduled to last two days. What does
> that mean? Are scientist staying aboard for one night after arrival or two
> nights?
> > When (generally) does the vessel return to the port?
> > How fast upon our return can we have medics come on board to do tests?
> >
> > We need clarity on that as to say to people when to book their flights
> back to USA. I am counting on 24 hour turnaround for tests and if they are
> spending only a single night aboard, I will need to get rooms for all, and
> then they should all be flying out on June 3rd.
> >
> >
> > 3) for PO today I got an email from Sari (sailing on process ship)
> asking if she can do an NOC and not an exports quarantine. She was calling
> herself on documents provided to us, and I asked her for additional
> clarification  on details.
> >
> > 4)For PO  Meg E. Called me today from pharmacy saying she can get a
> vaccine today only if she flies one day later. I made on spot decision to
> allow that and I will organize a separate transport for her. She will start
> quarantine one day later, but she will be fully vaccinated.
> >
> > 5)for PO fkn emmanuel boss (who texted me today at least million times)
> heard about that I allowed Meg to fly a day later and now he is asking if
> he can fly a day later bc he needs to teach. I don't believe that is the
> same situation as Megs. I am pretty pissed at him for sending me texts all
> day, and now some quotes from CDC trying to prove that it is ok if he
> quarantines 13 days. I will leave it upon you. But note that for each one
> of them I need to organize a separate transport.
> >
> > Thank you. I appreciate your help on resolution of these things. Note if
> anyone from the science party texts me during dinner again (and they are
> not in terrible emergency or they want to share puppy or baby photos), I
> will quit.
> >
> > Thank you so much
> >
> > Ivona
> >
> >
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