[Exports_project_office] EXPORTS health plan

Wed Jan 13 12:36:07 PST 2021

Again, i will organize the presentation in such a way that I can leave that
part still as a list of ideas.

Ivona

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 3:33 PM Ivona Cetinic <icetinic at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello to all,
>
> I agree with Ken. I am waiting on info from UK but i was thinking of
> looking at mini buses. But i can ask for full size buses half full.
>
> I
>
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> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 3:08 PM Craig M. Lee via Exports_project_office <
> exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ken,
>>
>> One thought on transfers and risk…
>>
>> Anyone who has been infected during transit (airports and aircraft) would
>> not be contagious immediately upon landing. The risk comes later, after a
>> few days of incubation. Thus the risk for the bus transfer comes from the
>> driver, and undetected pre-travel infection. Bus ventilation systems are
>> not at the same standard as passenger aircraft, which would be a reason for
>> seeking a larger vehicle. But the people on the bus will have all undergone
>> screening (pre-travel PCR test) that still leaves room for error, but is
>> certainly better than the random collection of people they share the
>> airplane cabin with on the way over.
>>
>> Good to be careful, but modulo the bus driver, this might not be a
>> high-risk element of the chain.
>>
>> Craig
>>
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>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 11:45 AM, Ken Buesseler via Exports_project_office <
>> exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>> We too on Sarmiento are wondering about travel that likely includes
>> Lisbon to Vigo via bus (2 hr, maybe shorter than Heathrow to Southampton,
>> and safer travel option than another flight through Madrid/Barcelona).
>> Thinking in our case of wanting lots of spacing, greater perhaps than on
>> the flights, so say a 60 passenger bus for 20 people, or multiple partially
>> filled vans.
>>
>> I am sharing with Ivona the Sarmiento DRAFT Covid plan later
>> today/tomorrow.  It is different in format, but essentially same rules.
>> I'd share a copy today, but until the Spanish sign off, it is a moving
>> target, but rest assured we will be trying to be safe and make folks
>> comfortable who are traveling, have crew match our quarantine plans, etc.
>> I can share a copy when I share with the rest of the Sarmiento participants
>> if you want.
>>
>> Ken
>> On 1/13/2021 1:53 PM, Graff, Jason Robert via Exports_project_office
>> wrote:
>>
>> A few more comments/edits.  Thanks for working so hard on this Ivona!  It
>> will be critical for some of us at institutions (like OSU) that are
>> hesitant to allow any travel.
>>
>> I have had multiple people ask about travel from airport to Southampton
>> and if bringing everyone into a shared bus from Heathrow before quarantine
>> is a good idea….anyway, something for us to think about.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> Jason Graff
>> Oregon State University
>> Assistant Professor - Senior Research
>> jrgraff at science.oregonstate.edu
>> 541-737-4090
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Cetinic, Ivona (GSFC-616.0)[UNIVERSITIES
>> SPACE RESEARCH ASSOCIATION] via Exports_project_office <
>> exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>> [This email originated from outside of OSU. Use caution with links and
>> attachments.]
>> Good morning to all,
>>
>> I will wait till noon my time to see if anything comes from Guy regarding
>> the missing parts of the document (NOC portion). If not, I will send an
>> email canceling the PI meeting tomorrow. Feel free to send me your comments
>> throughout the day, but I will stop updating the document today afternoon
>> till I receive further info from NOC.
>>
>> Also – do we need to meet for PO? I myself have no updates. Probably by
>> next Thursday I will have couple of things I would like to discuss (Logging
>> data aboard the vessels, platform tracking, and yes this document).  And
>> then would like to snatch the whole meeting for discussion of the document.
>>
>> Ivona
>>
>>
>> *From:* Exports_project_office <
>> exports_project_office-bounces at espo.nasa.gov> *On Behalf Of *Cetinic,
>> Ivona (GSFC-616.0)[UNIVERSITIES SPACE RESEARCH ASSOCIATION] via
>> Exports_project_office
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2021 10:33 PM
>> *To:* Deborah K. Steinberg <debbies at vims.edu>; Exports_project_office <
>> exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Exports_project_office] [EXTERNAL] Re: EXPORTS health
>> plan
>>
>> Hiya
>>
>> Thank you Deb. I will work through the comments tomorrow morning in hope
>> that we will hear something from NOC. If we do – I will send an email that
>> whole team should meet on Thursday. If not, well then we will postpone it
>> till the next week.
>>
>> I can put a statement in beginning that takes care of the fluency of the
>> situation, and that it will be updated with most recent documentation and
>> changes will be implemented blab la bla. Thank you for the note on
>> appendix, I still have to comb through those and link them up
>>
>> ivona
>>
>> *From:* Deborah K. Steinberg <debbies at vims.edu>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2021 9:57 PM
>> *To:* Cetinic, Ivona (GSFC-616.0)[UNIVERSITIES SPACE RESEARCH
>> ASSOCIATION] <ivona.cetinic at nasa.gov>; Exports_project_office <
>> exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov>
>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [Exports_project_office] EXPORTS health plan
>>
>> Great job, Ivona. A few more minor comments attached.  Appendix B looks
>> ok.
>> Should we have a statement near beginning that says this doc based on
>> current conditions (what we know now)? I.e., what if everyone is
>> (magically) vaccinated by April?
>> Also, I may have missed ,but wasn’t sure where UNOLS document appendix is
>> referred to in text, and should have its own Appendix number ‘D’.
>> ~Deb
>>
>> *From: *Exports_project_office <
>> exports_project_office-bounces at espo.nasa.gov> on behalf of "Cetinic,
>> Ivona (GSFC-616.0)[UNIVERSITIES SPACE RESEARCH ASSOCIATION] via
>> Exports_project_office" <exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov>
>> *Reply-To: *"Cetinic, Ivona (GSFC-616.0)[UNIVERSITIES SPACE RESEARCH
>> ASSOCIATION]" <ivona.cetinic at nasa.gov>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 9:29 AM
>> *To: *Exports_project_office <exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Exports_project_office] EXPORTS health plan
>>
>> Thank you Dave, I will catch up with Craig today. My biggest issue is
>> lack of NOC documentation. I am not sure how we can proceed without that
>> one. Same as you, I really want this off my desk.
>>
>> Note to all – as you have seen on the second page there is a table with
>> my name on it (I will add all of you but, I need a NASA name for now
>> there). As we modify this – and modifications will be needed, I will be
>> releasing a new versions with updated list of modifications. So small
>> changes are not an issue. But NOC document is really needed – it is a big
>> chunk of this …
>>
>> Ivona
>>
>> *From:* Exports_project_office <
>> exports_project_office-bounces at espo.nasa.gov> *On Behalf Of *David
>> Siegel via Exports_project_office
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2021 9:47 PM
>> *To:* Ivona Cetinic <icetinic at gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov
>> *Subject:* Re: [Exports_project_office] EXPORTS health plan
>>
>>
>> Hi Ivona et al,
>>
>> My mostly minor comments are attached.  It would be great to get this
>> presented this coming Thursday so we can move onto our next issues…
>>
>> Best, Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 11, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Ivona Cetinic via Exports_project_office <
>> exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hiya to all,
>> >
>> > here it is in its glory - everything is in there except the NOC part
>> (and sailing part that I cannot write without their plan).
>> >
>> > Please - I need everyone's eye's on Appendix B - does this make sense?
>> I would appreciate comments asap.
>> >
>> > Craig - I might email you separately on some issues under appendix b.
>> >
>> > Thank you
>> >
>> > Ivona
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