[Exports_project_office] EXPORTS health plan

Wed Jan 13 12:33:52 PST 2021

Hello to all,

I agree with Ken. I am waiting on info from UK but i was thinking of
looking at mini buses. But i can ask for full size buses half full.

I

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 3:08 PM Craig M. Lee via Exports_project_office <
exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov> wrote:

> Hi Ken,
>
> One thought on transfers and risk…
>
> Anyone who has been infected during transit (airports and aircraft) would
> not be contagious immediately upon landing. The risk comes later, after a
> few days of incubation. Thus the risk for the bus transfer comes from the
> driver, and undetected pre-travel infection. Bus ventilation systems are
> not at the same standard as passenger aircraft, which would be a reason for
> seeking a larger vehicle. But the people on the bus will have all undergone
> screening (pre-travel PCR test) that still leaves room for error, but is
> certainly better than the random collection of people they share the
> airplane cabin with on the way over.
>
> Good to be careful, but modulo the bus driver, this might not be a
> high-risk element of the chain.
>
> Craig
>
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> On Jan 13, 2021, at 11:45 AM, Ken Buesseler via Exports_project_office <
> exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> We too on Sarmiento are wondering about travel that likely includes Lisbon
> to Vigo via bus (2 hr, maybe shorter than Heathrow to Southampton, and
> safer travel option than another flight through Madrid/Barcelona).
> Thinking in our case of wanting lots of spacing, greater perhaps than on
> the flights, so say a 60 passenger bus for 20 people, or multiple partially
> filled vans.
>
> I am sharing with Ivona the Sarmiento DRAFT Covid plan later
> today/tomorrow.  It is different in format, but essentially same rules.
> I'd share a copy today, but until the Spanish sign off, it is a moving
> target, but rest assured we will be trying to be safe and make folks
> comfortable who are traveling, have crew match our quarantine plans, etc.
> I can share a copy when I share with the rest of the Sarmiento participants
> if you want.
>
> Ken
> On 1/13/2021 1:53 PM, Graff, Jason Robert via Exports_project_office wrote:
>
> A few more comments/edits.  Thanks for working so hard on this Ivona!  It
> will be critical for some of us at institutions (like OSU) that are
> hesitant to allow any travel.
>
> I have had multiple people ask about travel from airport to Southampton
> and if bringing everyone into a shared bus from Heathrow before quarantine
> is a good idea….anyway, something for us to think about.
>
> Jason
>
> Jason Graff
> Oregon State University
> Assistant Professor - Senior Research
> jrgraff at science.oregonstate.edu
> 541-737-4090
>
>
>
> On Jan 13, 2021, at 5:42 AM, Cetinic, Ivona (GSFC-616.0)[UNIVERSITIES
> SPACE RESEARCH ASSOCIATION] via Exports_project_office <
> exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
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> Good morning to all,
>
> I will wait till noon my time to see if anything comes from Guy regarding
> the missing parts of the document (NOC portion). If not, I will send an
> email canceling the PI meeting tomorrow. Feel free to send me your comments
> throughout the day, but I will stop updating the document today afternoon
> till I receive further info from NOC.
>
> Also – do we need to meet for PO? I myself have no updates. Probably by
> next Thursday I will have couple of things I would like to discuss (Logging
> data aboard the vessels, platform tracking, and yes this document).  And
> then would like to snatch the whole meeting for discussion of the document.
>
> Ivona
>
>
> *From:* Exports_project_office <
> exports_project_office-bounces at espo.nasa.gov> *On Behalf Of *Cetinic,
> Ivona (GSFC-616.0)[UNIVERSITIES SPACE RESEARCH ASSOCIATION] via
> Exports_project_office
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2021 10:33 PM
> *To:* Deborah K. Steinberg <debbies at vims.edu>; Exports_project_office <
> exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov>
> *Subject:* Re: [Exports_project_office] [EXTERNAL] Re: EXPORTS health plan
>
> Hiya
>
> Thank you Deb. I will work through the comments tomorrow morning in hope
> that we will hear something from NOC. If we do – I will send an email that
> whole team should meet on Thursday. If not, well then we will postpone it
> till the next week.
>
> I can put a statement in beginning that takes care of the fluency of the
> situation, and that it will be updated with most recent documentation and
> changes will be implemented blab la bla. Thank you for the note on
> appendix, I still have to comb through those and link them up
>
> ivona
>
> *From:* Deborah K. Steinberg <debbies at vims.edu>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 12, 2021 9:57 PM
> *To:* Cetinic, Ivona (GSFC-616.0)[UNIVERSITIES SPACE RESEARCH
> ASSOCIATION] <ivona.cetinic at nasa.gov>; Exports_project_office <
> exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [Exports_project_office] EXPORTS health plan
>
> Great job, Ivona. A few more minor comments attached.  Appendix B looks ok.
> Should we have a statement near beginning that says this doc based on
> current conditions (what we know now)? I.e., what if everyone is
> (magically) vaccinated by April?
> Also, I may have missed ,but wasn’t sure where UNOLS document appendix is
> referred to in text, and should have its own Appendix number ‘D’.
> ~Deb
>
> *From: *Exports_project_office <
> exports_project_office-bounces at espo.nasa.gov> on behalf of "Cetinic,
> Ivona (GSFC-616.0)[UNIVERSITIES SPACE RESEARCH ASSOCIATION] via
> Exports_project_office" <exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov>
> *Reply-To: *"Cetinic, Ivona (GSFC-616.0)[UNIVERSITIES SPACE RESEARCH
> ASSOCIATION]" <ivona.cetinic at nasa.gov>
> *Date: *Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 9:29 AM
> *To: *Exports_project_office <exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov>
> *Subject: *Re: [Exports_project_office] EXPORTS health plan
>
> Thank you Dave, I will catch up with Craig today. My biggest issue is lack
> of NOC documentation. I am not sure how we can proceed without that one.
> Same as you, I really want this off my desk.
>
> Note to all – as you have seen on the second page there is a table with my
> name on it (I will add all of you but, I need a NASA name for now there).
> As we modify this – and modifications will be needed, I will be releasing a
> new versions with updated list of modifications. So small changes are not
> an issue. But NOC document is really needed – it is a big chunk of this …
>
> Ivona
>
> *From:* Exports_project_office <
> exports_project_office-bounces at espo.nasa.gov> *On Behalf Of *David Siegel
> via Exports_project_office
> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2021 9:47 PM
> *To:* Ivona Cetinic <icetinic at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov
> *Subject:* Re: [Exports_project_office] EXPORTS health plan
>
>
> Hi Ivona et al,
>
> My mostly minor comments are attached.  It would be great to get this
> presented this coming Thursday so we can move onto our next issues…
>
> Best, Dave
>
>
>
> > On Jan 11, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Ivona Cetinic via Exports_project_office <
> exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >
> > Hiya to all,
> >
> > here it is in its glory - everything is in there except the NOC part
> (and sailing part that I cannot write without their plan).
> >
> > Please - I need everyone's eye's on Appendix B - does this make sense? I
> would appreciate comments asap.
> >
> > Craig - I might email you separately on some issues under appendix b.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Ivona
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