[Exports_project_office] EXPORTS at PAP 2021

Tue Dec 8 03:20:29 PST 2020

Hi Dave,

Yes, Dec 10 at 1600 will still work. I can attend, and I think also Filipa. Sue and Andy may also join.

Thanks,
Jen

From: David Siegel <david.siegel at ucsb.edu>
Date: Friday, 4 December 2020 at 19:51
To: "Durden, Jennifer M." <jennifer.durden at noc.ac.uk>
Cc: "Lampitt, Richard S." <r.lampitt at noc.ac.uk>, Laura Lorenzoni <laura.lorenzoni at nasa.gov>, Ivona Cetinic <icetinic at gmail.com>, "Hartman, Susan E." <s.hartman at noc.ac.uk>, "Henson, Stephanie A." <s.henson at noc.ac.uk>, "exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov" <exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov>, "Gates, Andrew R." <arg3 at noc.ac.uk>, Brian Bett <bjb at noc.ac.uk>, Ken Buesseler <kbuesseler at whoi.edu>, Stéphane PESANT <pesant at ebi.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: EXPORTS at PAP 2021

Hi Jen et al.,

Couple things.  First we have revised our plan of the moment document - which attempts to put together the mess of all of this. PPT file is at https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a0-d0I2-uMoXjTEHnDreju4cHfd07lhR/view?usp=sharing  We presented it to the team and are gathering feedback before we chat about interests in working with you all.

Second, I want to verifying that we are chatting next week. I suggested a zoom call say 8am PST / 11am EST / 4pm GMT on Dec 10. Does that work for you? I think it didn’t work for Steph - though I think Craig is chatting with her soon. Let me know how you want to proceed.

Best, Dave

On Nov 24, 2020, at 5:36 PM, David Siegel <david.siegel at ucsb.edu<mailto:david.siegel at ucsb.edu>> wrote:

Hi Jen,

Thanx for reaching out. Seems we’re all struggling to get things together. We haven’t spoken much about what we want to do with you in any great detail.  The first two items you have listed below (glider deployments and CTD samples for POC, etc. for pre-cruise conditions and initial glider calibrations) are partnering things we’d like to do for certain if we can. We are hope that you can deploy and get initial calibration data for two SeaGliders (Craig Lee) and one Slocum glider (Steph Henson). The other items (UVP, 234Th, ARGO cal, UW system) seem to me to be a bit too much to consider at this time (unless someone on my team REALLY wants to make one of these happen).  We can talk more on the 10th.

Thanx again. Best, Dave and the exports team

PS - Love to hear good news about your PAP mooring turnaround at some point too…

On Nov 24, 2020, at 5:01 AM, Durden, Jennifer M. <jennifer.durden at noc.ac.uk<mailto:jennifer.durden at noc.ac.uk>> wrote:

Hi Dave, Ivona and Laura and the EXPORTS team,

Thanks for your thoughts about the upcoming cruises. I am available and look forward to the discussion on 10 December.

We have been discussing our upcoming PAP cruise (DY130) this morning at our weekly meeting. We are still unsure of the number of berths / staffing that we will have for this cruise, which may have a big impact on our program of work and what we can do in addition to that. We are therefore making several plans for our cruise. We sail on 25 March 2021, so we are anticipating having a cruise planning meeting imminently, perhaps even before 10 December, and likely before we know about berth numbers. So, it would be helpful to get an idea of the types of things you are considering for your ‘wish list’ for our cruise, with consideration for equipment required, processing needed on board and staffing requirements.

From your email below, these look like:

  *   glider deployments (we should confirm numbers)
  *   water samples from the CTD (for POC, DOC, nutrients, HPLC pigs, etc. – do the genomics you suggest fit here?)

Our previous conversations back before the planned 2020 cruises had these other aspects – are you still thinking of these?

  *   Use of the Underwater Vision Profiler, requiring a qualified operator
  *   Thorium-234 work, requiring SAPs + CTD samples + a van on the ship and personnel from WHOI + one of our pelagic team
  *   ARGO calibration, including glider recovery – I assume this is not required, as deployments are needed instead
  *   Underway system – I don’t have many notes on this as it was deemed too complicated

Do these cover all the aspects you are considering? Are there any that can be eliminated at this stage?

Many thanks,
Jen

From: David Siegel <david.siegel at ucsb.edu<mailto:david.siegel at ucsb.edu>>
Date: Wednesday, 18 November 2020 at 16:59
To: "Lampitt, Richard S." <r.lampitt at noc.ac.uk<mailto:r.lampitt at noc.ac.uk>>
Cc: Laura Lorenzoni <laura.lorenzoni at nasa.gov<mailto:laura.lorenzoni at nasa.gov>>, Ivona Cetinic <icetinic at gmail.com<mailto:icetinic at gmail.com>>, "Hartman, Susan E." <s.hartman at noc.ac.uk<mailto:s.hartman at noc.ac.uk>>, "Henson, Stephanie A." <s.henson at noc.ac.uk<mailto:s.henson at noc.ac.uk>>, "exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov<mailto:exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov>" <exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov<mailto:exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov>>, "Gates, Andrew R." <arg3 at noc.ac.uk<mailto:arg3 at noc.ac.uk>>, "Durden, Jennifer M." <jennifer.durden at noc.ac.uk<mailto:jennifer.durden at noc.ac.uk>>, Brian Bett <bjb at noc.ac.uk<mailto:bjb at noc.ac.uk>>, Ken Buesseler <kbuesseler at whoi.edu<mailto:kbuesseler at whoi.edu>>, Stéphane PESANT <pesant at ebi.ac.uk<mailto:pesant at ebi.ac.uk>>, David Siegel <david.siegel at ucsb.edu<mailto:david.siegel at ucsb.edu>>
Subject: Re: EXPORTS at PAP 2021

Hi Richard et al.,

Thanx for the note of the good news. EXPORTS is on the schedule sailing 1 May to 1 June 2021 modulo COVID timing issues.  We are desperately hoping that we sail with a full science party. The stars have aligned so far - let’s hope we get lucky.

WRT collaborations with you all on DY130, the fact that you are all out a month before EXPORTS as well as the reestablishment of the mooring data stream is huge for us. Thank you. Obvious things to do are the deployments of the gliders and sharing of CTD (and other) data to help us site our sampling.  We will also likely want you all to collect samples for POC, DOC, nutrients, HPLC pigs, etc. to extend our temporal baseline and ground truth the glider observations. Maybe genomics as well.  Exchanging samples we take on DY131 for analytical inter comparisons makes sense too. Having both of us work out of Southampton makes this easier for sure. There’s surely more. Anyways I’ll look thru my notes, it's not like we haven’t had these discussions before…

So, I agree we should meet up for a zoom call soon. We last talked about all of this in mid August and it makes sense to do this again in mid December(?). We have conversations with the NOC ship ops folks tomorrow and an exports all-hands discussion of the Plan of the Moment for Dec 3. You are welcome to join that if you want.  Should have the Plan of the Moment, which will include our hopes working with you all, Dec 1 or so. That said, a PAP observatory / EXPORTS zoom call say 8am PST / 11am EST / 4pm GMT on Dec 10 makes sense to me. Please let us know if we can pencil that in.

WRT the Plan of the Moment, there are a couple of things to consider. First, the R/V Sarmiento de Gamboa will be joining us at sea again. They are sailing 3 May to 21 May, 2021 from Vigo, Spain. Their focus is on the BGC roles of higher tropic levels and will bring capabilities we will not have (ISSUS towed imagery, 10 m MOCNESS, robotic sampling, etc.).  Ken Buesseler is the POC for that.  The second emerging partnership is that the AtlantECO folks may be joining us with the the Tara Ocean ship. I have cc:ed Stéphane Pesant who can speak more to this. Their go / no go decision point will be early December.  If they join us there would be other things we should consider as well (like consistent genomic sampling).

Best of luck with the PAP mooring turnaround goes and please let us know how that goes.

Best to all and be safe, Dave, Ivona and Laura and the EXPORTS team

On Nov 17, 2020, at 3:26 AM, Lampitt, Richard S. <r.lampitt at noc.ac.uk<mailto:r.lampitt at noc.ac.uk>> wrote:

Hi Dave, Laura and Ivona,
I have just come from a PAP discussion during which plans for 2021 were touched upon. The dates for the NOC cruise are reasonably firm as 25th March to 14th April although there is uncertainty about the number of participants which will be permitted. Those at the meeting just now were keen to hear more about how we would work collaboratively with you and the rest of the EXPORTS team. I know that Steph has been in communication over the glider deployments but of course there are several other areas of mutual interest.

Part of the PAP team are currently on Discovery at PAP deploying the main mooring albeit in a slightly minimized configuration but it would be very good to discuss fairly soon how the activities next year can work together in a mutually beneficial manner.

Hoping you are all keeping fit and healthy
Best wishes
Richard

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