[Exports_project_office] FW: EXPORTS- maybe need EEZ clearance?

Deborah K. Steinberg debbies at vims.edu
Mon Nov 18 10:15:59 PST 2019


Hi Craig, Dave, Ken,
Do you already have the coordinates you plan to send that I can give WHOI?
Thanks,
Deb

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From: Sarah Fuller <sfuller at whoi.edu>
Organization: Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution
Date: Monday, November 18, 2019 at 11:54 AM
To: Deb Steinberg <debbies at vims.edu>
Cc: Jason Graff <jrgraff at science.oregonstate.edu>, Kerry Crehan-Strom <kstrom at whoi.edu>
Subject: Re: EXPORTS- maybe need EEZ clearance?

Hi Deb,

Definitely good to play it safe and have clearances if you think you may need them.

Kerry Strom, cc'ed, will work with you on getting what is needed.
She will need coordinates of where you could be sampling in the EEZs, so a rough area for where you think you could possibly end up will be necessary.

Cheers
Sarah


On 11/18/19 4:58 AM, Deborah K. Steinberg wrote:
Hi Sarah,
There has recently been some discussion about foreign clearances for our cruise (I copied exchange below). It is particularly relevant for the survey ship (Discovery) and the WHOI OTZ ship (Sarmiento) which may need to do some underway or ‘practice’ sampling en route to PAP from the UK and Spain, and that will be accessing a wider region, but I suppose could affect Atlantis too if the eddy we pick is in or strays into an EEZ.  I’m inclined to play it safe and request clearance/s, but want to see what you think. I know these requests are getting less trivial nowadays, although these countries are easier than most.
Thanks,
Deb

From: "Exports_project_office for Craig M. Lee" <exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov><mailto:exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov>
Reply-To: "Craig M. Lee" <craiglee at uw.edu><mailto:craiglee at uw.edu>
Date: Saturday, November 16, 2019 at 11:32 AM
To: Ken Buesseler <kbuesseler at whoi.edu><mailto:kbuesseler at whoi.edu>
Cc: Exports_project_office <exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov><mailto:exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: [Exports_project_office] EEZ access

Hi All,

Apologies - I neglected to attach the chart. Please see below. The range rings mark 100-km increments from PAP. The northern hatched area is within the Faroese EEZ. The southern hatched area is within the French and Spanish EEZs. The solid orange is the Irish EEZ. Some of these areas may be in dispute, but the UK will require that we seek MSR clearances for all of them. I’m in agreement - if I were doing this from a US vessel (or using US autonomous assets, which we are), I would do the same thing. I’m folding the autonomous assets into the Discovery MSR, so we will not need ti file separately for these. Atlantis and Sarmiento should probably seek clearances, so that the program is free to hunt across the region. Lacking that, we will be constrained to hunt only within the white region to the SW.

Best Regards,

Craig


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I already have permission a for UK and Ireland underway. The question concerns Faroes (N.E. quad of the circle) and Spain/France (SE quad of the circle). This is not part of transit route, but is instead a question of whether we want those regions in the search domain.

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Right, that reminds me of underway systems. We have to get permission and report data on the underway systems as well. Had to do this for Canada last time.

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Question is not so much for science, but for practice sampling.  If folks want to do a shake down station, to get organized and make sure all works, that might need to happen in an EEZ.
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On 11/15/19, 7:32 AM, "Exports_project_office for Craig M. Lee" <exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov><mailto:exports_project_office at espo.nasa.gov> wrote:



    Hi All,



    We need to make a decision regarding EEZ access. Please review the attached chart. If we draw range rings 400 km from PAP, the enclosed region includes the EEZs of the Faroes (northern hatched region), France and Spain (southern hatched region).



    My inclination is to ask for clearance for Faroes. I’m less certain about Spain and France - my original request excluded those EEZs (I thought they’d intrude into the target circle, but not by quite as much).



    Thoughts? This is a short-fuse activity, as we are now inside the 6-month request window. I need to get back to our colleagues in the UK immediately.



    Jason and Deb - I’m assuming that you’ve already been through this exercise with Atlantis - what did you ask for?



    Thanks,



    Craig

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