<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"></div>Hi to all,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thank you for your comments.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I found this at CDC website:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/disinfecting-building-facility.html">https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/disinfecting-building-facility.html</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Following this article at NYtimes:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/health/coronavirus-hygiene-cleaning-surfaces.html?smid=url-share">https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/health/coronavirus-hygiene-cleaning-surfaces.html?smid=url-share</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Exchange that was mentioned was by Brandon, whose alternate is carrying some of their gear. They can do the exchange at the airport. One other exchange that I know of is Rachel L. and the a laptop with.. I have to check my email. That was it. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I like the suggestion that Deb had. Can we ask them to wipe the surface with clorox wipe and send it over to other person, and that person wipes it again. Thar recommendation surpasses CDC recommendations. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thank you for your answers. Keep them coming.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Ivona</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 9, 2021, 8:02 AM Deborah K. Steinberg <<a href="mailto:debbies@vims.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">debbies@vims.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Agree the plan makes sense. As for #1, I also strongly believe that outdoor exercise is safe provided rules are adhered to – which I also feel confident that people will. Weighing all this I favor letting us all out after the 2<sup>nd</sup>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As for exchange of goods- Most of us have been going to the grocery store at least sometimes- we wipe down out carts right before using and off we go. (Even covid-conservativeTrader Joes has switched back using the customers personal bags
to pack groceries rather than make you use theirs !) How about we tell people to bring wipes or gloves (e.g., for opening up a box) if they anticipate exchanges? If it’s something that can’t be easily wiped, then let it sit for a day. I think the ship’s 3-day
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<b>Reply-To: </b>"Graff, Jason Robert" <<a href="mailto:Jason.Graff@oregonstate.edu" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Jason.Graff@oregonstate.edu</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, April 9, 2021 at 12:46 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Ivona Cetinic <<a href="mailto:icetinic@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">icetinic@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Project office <<a href="mailto:exports_project_office@espo.nasa.gov" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">exports_project_office@espo.nasa.gov</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Exports_project_office] post meeting comments about the walkies during quarantine<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think this plan makes sense. It minimizes risk early during quarantine following lots of travel time and eventually provides some mental and physical relief outside, while adhering to protocols put in place by the UK whether or not we
are required to follow it. It includes 2 lf tests and one PCR test result and minimizes the potential for bad optics Ken referred to in his previous email.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Clearly the anonymous comments span the gamut from grateful due to the need for physical movement to, well, at least one that was not as well thought out, helpful, or considerate of the human side of the project.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In regard to the exchange of materials, do we have a list started for those exchanges, similar to the one for the ship-ship exchange? In the big scheme of things, these exchanges are limited in number relative to the exchange of breakfast,
trash bins, groceries, Amazon packages, and testing interactions, etc. that will be happening frequently. It seems that the person can deliver the package to the door of the receiver, knock, and go away. There could be a waiting period before the person
opens their door or something to that effect. Unless exchanges are extremely timely, I don’t see why these can’t wait until day 5 as well. At that point, direct exchange between those testing negative is probably preferred to asking an intermediate, such
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 8, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Ivona Cetinic via Exports_project_office <<a href="mailto:exports_project_office@espo.nasa.gov" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">exports_project_office@espo.nasa.gov</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As smart people say, I did some soul and <a href="https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fuk.gov%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cdebbies%40vims.edu%7C54d9ec784a3d4ccd364e08d8fb1275de%7C8cbcddd9588d4e3b9c1e2367dbdf1740%7C0%7C0%7C637535404016597014%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=D1x1gnVI3deEaKfCZYD7BERTry9Gcgcnn3de09zWbTo%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">
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<b><i>THANK YOU for working on getting us outside time - I will take advantage of every minute of it and be so grateful!!!!!!!!! <3</i></b></span><b><br>
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</b><b><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#202124;letter-spacing:.15pt">(private comment to me that I am not copying here) That said, I am pretty concerned about people being able to leave quarantine. I get it, we all want
to be outside. But it seems like a tremendous risk to the program. Two weeks just isn't that long considering how big this program is and how much is riding on it. Similar to the questions of passing materials between rooms. If equipment has to quarantine
for 3 days why should we be able to pass items between rooms? Jesus, plan ahead people! And don't be so spoiled. Listening to all these demands for special favors and treatment (which adds so much stress to your plate) feels really whiny and privileged.
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